Elon Musk spoke on the Conservative Political Motion Convention (CPAC) on Thursday, giving a wierd and infrequently inarticulate on-stage interview to Newsmax presenter Rob Schmitt. Schmitt was all smiles and enthusiasm, and managed to steer Musk by means of the half hour, by no means pausing to look again on the apparent logical inconsistencies, varied falsehoods, and mathematical errors that littered the interview. He even did a good job of protecting the whole timeslot from devolving into web memes, though he couldn’t cease Musk from loudly saying “I’m turn into meme.” Nonetheless, the CPAC crowd ate it up.
The next is a transcript created from CPAC’s personal livestream of the occasion. That is, I emphasize, not a parody.
Flashing lights, massive screens ablaze with animated graphics harking back to the oughties. The CPAC emblem spins round as generic rap-rock blasts throughout the group.
Announcer: Women and gents, it’s time for the DOGE replace. Please welcome Newsmax host, Rob Schmitt.
Schmitt: Man. That may be a large crowd. And they aren’t right here for me.
Schmitt: The way you guys doing? Good vibe this month, proper? After the very best month we’ve ever had. Good to see you. Thanks for popping out. It’s good to see you. Let’s not kill any extra time, let’s deliver out Elon Musk.
Crowd goes wild. Elon Musk enters stage, pumping each fists excessive within the air, strolling barely unsteadily. He’s carrying a black MAGA baseball cap and sun shades that seem like they have been purchased in a fuel station in 1989. He continues to pump his fists as he makes his manner in entrance of the beige arm chairs on the entrance of the stage. Rob Schmitt makes an attempt to get his consideration, however he turns and waves on the crowd.
Schmitt: We’ve bought yet one more shock, in case this wasn’t sufficient.
Musk: Effectively, President, uh, President Milei has a present for me.
Schmitt: [hamming at camera] Javier Milei from Argentina, you guys know who that’s, proper?
Milei, a friendly-looking determine who resembles Bilbo Baggins proper earlier than he Smeagolifies, enters the stage carrying a chainsaw. He presents the chainsaw to the billionaire, who then waves it round unsteadily.
Musk: This… is… the chainsaw for forms. [pumps the chainsaw in the air] CHAINSAAAW!
He takes a beat to look at the chainsaw. He’s nonetheless carrying his sun shades. He turns round and begins wandering to the opposite aspect of the stage, waving the chainsaw round.
Milei lurks awkwardly within the background, attempting to wave goodbye to Musk, earlier than Schmitt takes discover.
Schmitt: Mr. President, thanks a lot. Good to satisfy you. I adore it. We adore it.
Musk’s consideration snaps to Milei. The 2 males shake palms with the Argentinian president, who then departs.
Musk: The place ought to we put this —
Schmitt: They need it proper right here. [moves the chainsaw] Just a little stage prop.
Crowd screams for Elon Musk.
Musk: I like you guys too!
Schmitt: Thanks guys. Have a seat.
The 2 males settle into the armchairs.
Schmitt: So, uh. Heheh. That was one thing.
Musk: [ineffectually suppressing grin] I’m turn into meme.
Schmitt chuckles obsequiously.
Musk: Yeah. Just about. I used to be residing the meme. It’s simply — I used to be residing the dream, and I used to be residing the meme, and that’s, just about what’s occurring.
Musk: I imply, DOGE began out as a meme. Give it some thought! [laughs] Now it’s actual!
Schmitt: [smiling affably] So —
Musk: [to audience, sunglasses still on] Isn’t that loopy!
Schmitt: It’s, it’s loopy.
“I used to be residing the dream, and I used to be residing the meme, and that’s, just about what’s occurring.”
Schmitt: Let me ask you this. A 12 months in the past, if somebody had informed you you’d be at CPAC and dealing with the president to completely shred [dramatic pause] the federal government — the swamp — no matter you wish to name it. Would you imagine that?
Musk: No. [snickers] But it surely’s cool! That is superior. And I simply wanna say, thanks on your help, I imply.
Musk: You guys are. You understand. We’re, you understand, we’re attempting to get good issues executed, but in addition, like, you understand, have time doing it and, uh, you understand, and have, like, a humorousness.
Musk: You understand. So, like, I imply, the type of the left wished to make comedy unlawful, you understand, you may’t make enjoyable of something. So that is, like, comedy suuuuuucks. It’s like, nothing’s humorous. You may’t make enjoyable of something.
He waves his arms so emphatically that the massive gold chain he’s carrying clanks towards his mic.
Musk: It’s like, LEGALIZE COMEDY! YEEEAH! Legalize Comedy!
Schmitt: And we’ve shifted the whole tradition in simply the previous few months, the entire tradition of this nation has shifted dramatically simply due to that election.
Musk: Yeah, precisely. Freedom of speech, having enjoyable once more, it looks as if we must always… We must always have time. You understand?
Schmitt: I imply, it’s a good time. All people on this place is so excited, and I haven’t, I imply, once you discuss to conservatives, all people’s joyful.
Musk: [nodding emphatically] Yeah.
Schmitt: And all people feels this nice sense of aid, as a result of we have been going to hell for about 4 years.
Schmitt: It actually felt dangerous, particularly towards the tip, it felt actually dangerous.
Musk: [still nodding] Yeah. I imply, I believed, I believed we have been type of heading for some extent of no return actually, you understand, till, um, that’s why it was so important that President Trump win the election and, and that there, there be a Republican majority within the Home and Senate, which, because of you [gestures generally at CPAC audience] that, that has been achieved. Yeah.
Schmitt: I wish to ask you, one of many greatest questions I’ve for you is — you’ve been, you understand, politically, you weren’t actually on one aspect or the opposite for a very long time. You have been a businessman, lots of people, they steer clear of it now. You’re on a aspect, you’ve chosen a aspect. You’re sitting right here in a MAGA hat. How did that occur? What was the second?
Musk: It’s like, you understand, darkish gothic MAGA. [preens over his hat, which features MAKE AMERICA GREAT in a blackletter typeface]
Schmitt: That’s one. Was there a selected second? Was there a second that all of it modified?
Musk: Yeah, after I realized I used to be a idiot.
He laughs, and his chain clanks towards his mic once more.
Musk: However no, I used to be, I assume, uh… yeah, I imply, I’d say, I used to be like, politically impartial for, for fairly some time. You understand. You understand, leaning a little bit Democrat. You understand. [winces theatrically]
Schmitt: So then how do you go from that to this? [points at CPAC audience]
Musk: [sigh] Effectively, uh, it —
Schmitt: Did they go loopy?
Musk: [laughs] Yeah, they did — they did go loopy. I imply that complete cancel tradition and, you understand, attempting to, attempting to cease freedom of speech, and um, infringe upon, simply usually, infringe upon folks’s private freedoms. You understand, they only need state management, state management of what you say… They wanna, they wanna, you understand, take away your weapons, and the explanation they wanna take away your weapons, is like, so there’s nothing you are able to do to oppose them. So it’s type of like, you understand, I simply, I simply, I identical to. We, we, we, we simply want to revive the elemental components of what made America nice, which is, uh, freedom and alternative.
Schmitt: We’re seeing plenty of these freedoms disappearing within the West. It’s not nearly America. We’re watching, we’re all watching Europe and understanding that they’re about 50, 100 years forward of us, proper? As a result of they bought an early begin, and we’re watching how they’re devolving, and also you’re attempting to put it aside from occurring right here.
“I imply, in Europe, they put folks in jail for memes. Yeah. You understand, I’m like, that’s insane.”
Musk: I imply, in Europe, they put folks in jail for memes. Yeah. You understand, I’m like, that’s insane.
Schmitt: They’re collapsing. They’re a collapsing society. It feels that manner.
Musk: It… feels… like…
Schmitt: France was nicer 50 years in the past than this.
Schmitt: I don’t suppose you may query it.
Musk: Yeah. Um. so. Yeah. So. Yeah. I imply. Actually.
He seems to be attempting to start out a sentence. Ultimately he breaks down laughing. Somebody within the crowd cheers, he turns to them.
Musk: Yeah, I like you too! I imply. I actually, I actually, I actually simply wish to do helpful issues, like, you understand, mainly construct merchandise, you understand, present services and products which can be which can be good and I wasn’t actually that keen on being political. It, simply, like, there was a sure level, no selection. Yeah. So, yeah.
Schmitt: Can I ask you — on the identical aspect of that coin — what’s it like going from impartial to being vilified, largely vilified by the media? I feel you’re —
Musk: What? No. Actually? HANHHANHHHAHA!
Schmitt: I imply, activate a few of these channels, brother. I imply, they’re indignant at you. Does it hassle you in any respect?
Musk: I imply, have been they chanting for my dying? I suppose that’s a little bit, you understand… like, the track’s not even that gooooood. And it’s like, it’s like, you name {that a} dying chant? [wriggles torso while seated] That’s noooothing, pleeease.
Schmitt: They’ve been singing rather a lot recently. There’s plenty of music recently. It’s not good music both. Yeah, yeah. I’d say that they’re, you understand, watching what you’re doing with DOGE is simply that — folks love it.
Schmitt: I imply, I’ve at all times seemed on the authorities and… I’ve at all times seemed on the authorities. I’ve seen this large machine that, and also you simply know that they waste as a result of they don’t care. No person might. There’s extra money coming. They don’t care. You’re reducing all this out. All people on this nation is aware of that the federal government is stuffed with waste, fraud, and abuse, and also you’re doing the work, and the People adore it. Watching their response politically to this, I can’t imagine how dangerous they’re responding to this. I don’t understand how you’re going to sit down there and scream and complain as a result of they’re reducing waste out of the federal government and attempt to win one other election. How do you attempt to win on that?
Musk: Effectively, at this level, I’m like, I’m unsure how a lot of the left is even actual.
Schmitt: Like, how a lot was propped up by our cash?
Musk: Yeah, you see, like, these, these type of faux rallies with hardly any folks and the media will, like, body it, [making a rectangle with his fingers] and like, you understand, get all six folks you understand, within the body, however it’s like, no one else is there, like, simply, it doesn’t have widespread help, um. However there’s, however then, however then you definately study that, like, there’s a whole lot of billions of {dollars} going to those so-called NGOs, and that, and it’s your tax {dollars} which can be funding issues which can be basically anti-American.
Schmitt: And so they’re propping up their narrative. A variety of that authorities cash has been propping up a left that I don’t suppose is, I don’t suppose is as sturdy as they made it appear.
Musk: In actual fact, a large quantity of your tax {dollars} goes to legacy media corporations, instantly from the from, from the federal government.
Schmitt: The federal government needs to take over media.
Musk: Yeah, it’s horrible.
Schmitt: Yeah, that’s why now we have X.
Musk: Yeah! And that’s —
Schmitt: That’s why you spent $44 billion — I imply, there’s some huge cash. Greater than it was most likely price, however it had, there was a message.
Musk: Freedom is priceless. [nods sagely as crowd goes wild]
Schmitt: In all probability one of the necessary investments this nation’s ever seen. For those who gotta defend the First Modification, it’s not rather more necessary than that.
Musk: Yeah. I imply, I bought plenty of criticism, and other people, folks, stated, properly, that proves he’s an enormous fool from a, you understand, like, look, he purchased it for like no matter, $44 billion and now it’s price, like, eight cents.
Schmitt: And it’s not price eight cents!
Musk: You understand, there’s that, however, however yeah, it was basically to, you understand, purchase…. freedom… of expression. And —
Schmitt: As soon as’s that’s gone it’s throughout, throughout, yeah, tyranny is basically fast after that.
Musk: Yeah. I imply, like, you understand. All of the type of federal cash going to media corporations is what, what helps clarify why the legacy media all says the identical factor on the identical time. Yeah, like, isn’t it, like, it’s like, bizarre, like, you place them up with, like, you understand, like, when…
Schmitt: [jumping in] They’re mouthpieces for…
Musk: For the state! Sure.
The billionaire, who owns a social media platform, and is supposedly additionally a federal official, nods.
Schmitt: That’s what we’ve come to know. Yeah, scary.
Musk: Yeah. I just like the theme with it, the place, the place, the place, as a result of they’re at all times saying, like, risk to our democracy, risk to our democracy, however in the event you simply changed democracy with forms…. It makes plenty of sense.
Schmitt: Makes good sense.
Musk: [smirking] Massive risk to the forms.
Schmitt: That’s precisely proper. Let’s discuss, let’s discuss these DOGE dividend checks that everyone’s speaking about this week. And I do know you tweeted out that you simply’re gonna as a result of [turns to audience] Does all people need, like, a $5,000 verify within the mail? That sounds form of good, proper?
Schmitt: And the very best half about it could be understanding the place it got here from, that that’s 5 grand that you simply despatched them final 12 months.
Musk: Completely, it’s cash that’s taken away from, from issues which can be damaging to the nation, that and from organizations that hate you, to you. That’s superior.
Schmitt: Does it seem to be —
Musk: I imply that’s like, wonderful. [laughs] The spoils of battle, you understand?
Schmitt: Is there traction on that?
Musk: Yeah, yeah. So yeah. [inaudible] …the president. He’s supportive of that. And so it seems like, you understand, that’s one thing we’re going to do. In order we’re discovering financial savings, that’s going to translate on to reductions in tax. Yeah.
Schmitt: I imply, I feel they fired 6,000 folks on the IRS in the present day, and I feel, they stated final evening that they’re speaking about shutting down the IRS.
Schmitt: I feel it’s honest. I feel folks ought to notice that is, I imply, the amount of cash that we stated we ship Washington, like 5 – 6 trillion a 12 months, that’s such an ungodly amount of cash. I imply, like, a trillion seconds, is like 30 years or one thing like that. I imply, that’s how a lot we ship them. And so they appear to by no means have sufficient. There should be rather a lot you may lower.
Musk: No, completely. Folks ask me, What’s probably the most stunning factor that you simply’ve encountered once you go to DC? You understand, we’re in DC. And I stated, properly, probably the most stunning factor is the dimensions of the expenditures, and truly, uh, how straightforward it’s to with a simply, simply once you add caring and competence, the place there was absent earlier than you may truly save billions of {dollars} generally in, in an hour. Yeah, like, it’s wild.
Schmitt: After which they scoff at it and say, oh, a number of billion right here there. I imply, the way in which they’re speaking about it, they, you may see they don’t care. It’s so it’s such little cash in comparison with how a lot they’re used to losing. That’s what’s actually scary.
Musk: Um, yeah, no, precisely. However clearly it’s, it’s, it simply reveals that they actually lack empathy for the common taxpayer who’s working arduous, paying, paying taxes, after which, after which they are saying, oh, 1,000,000 {dollars} doesn’t matter. I’m like, I feel it issues rather a lot to folks you understand. So what are you speaking about?
Schmitt: I’d wish to have it. Let me ask you a query. You understand, I do know the President pretty properly. Watched him survive two assassination makes an attempt. The second, had the primary one not occurred, the second would have gotten him, as a result of with out these additional guys, they might have by no means seen that gun poking by means of the fence on the golf course.
Musk: Isn’t it thoughts blowing that this has occurred? I imply, and simply and what? By the way in which, why can we nonetheless know nothing about that man in Butler, what’s happening? However uh Kash is gonna resolve it! Yeah! Woo! [pumps arms, but only about halfway up]
Schmitt: Only a couple hours in the past, I noticed that the safety element that you simply had are available in with is big.
Musk: It’s not that monumental, perhaps it must be greater.
Schmitt: It’d. I feel you could possibly most likely afford it. However, I imply, how involved are you about your security? I imply, it’s you. Are you? You’re a wished man. Are you? Are you?
Musk: So I look, I’m open to concepts for enhancing safety. I’ve to inform you. Like I don’t truly have a dying want. I suppose. However, you understand, it’s not that straightforward. So, yeah, I imply, however I’ve like that, even like folks like President Bukele from El Salvador, who managed to place in jail like a 100,000, like, murderous thugs. And he was like, he known as me. He’s like, I’m nervous about your safety. I’m like, YOU’RE nervous about my safety? Okay, you understand. I imply, yeah.
Schmitt: Speak about guts to do this down there.
Musk: I imply, yeah, completely.
Schmitt: After which survive.
Musk: Like, I’m like, I used to be like, how did you place all these thugs in jail with out dying, as a result of issues like that may have been not straightforward. You understand.
Schmitt: Effectively, there’s the President, as certainly one of his prime attorneys is now investigating, I assume Chuck Schumer, for threats towards SCOTUS. Congress, on the Democrats’ aspect, for saying, you understand, mainly saying he’s gonna deliver a warfare to you, like a struggle to you. I imply, the rhetoric… you guys are screwing with issues that aren’t alleged to be messed with.
Musk: We’re combating [inaudible]
Schmitt: — lots of people that basically don’t need that to occur.
Musk: We’re combating Matrix large time right here. It’s got to be executed.
Schmitt: Yeah, and it actually does. [brushing over the Matrix reference] What’s happening with — inform us about Fort Knox. Kentucky. It’s a army base. It’s a ton of gold, tons and tons and tons.
Musk: 5,000 tons of gold, one thing.
Schmitt: 5,000 are there within the floor and like this. I imply, it’s a really safe factor.
Musk: I feel all of us wish to see it.
Schmitt: I’d like to see it like this.
Musk: That is your gold, by the way in which. It’s the general public’s gold.
Schmitt: Do you suppose it’s not there?
“All this gold at Fort Knox. It’s the general public’s gold. It’s your gold. So, like, I feel you will have, like, a proper to see it.”
Musk: I don’t know, however I feel I simply wish to see it. Yeah, we wish to go see it and simply make sure that. Like, make sure that, like, did any person spray paint some lead or one thing, you understand, yeah, like, is that this actual gold? You might need to chunk the bar. You understand. However I feel, truthfully, you understand, a part of this additionally is rather like, let’s, you understand, let’s have some enjoyable. And, you understand, like, like, I stated, this, all this gold at Fort Knox. It’s the general public’s gold. It’s your gold. So, like, I feel you will have, like, a proper to see it.
Schmitt: And take a tour.
Musk: Yeah, I feel we must always have a — do a — do a tour. And the President final evening was like, that’s, I feel he’s in favor of it. That might be cool. After which we, like, it must be like a stay tour, like, you’ll see what’s happening, open the door, [gestures dramatically] like, what’s behind it, properly, and there’s, you understand, I feel I’d watch that. Yeah.
Schmitt: I imply, what’s, what’s 5,000 tons of is it? Is it the dimensions of this —
Musk: Gotta be fairly large, you understand. It’s gotta be plenty of different stuff in there, like, round, like, I don’t even… bought another stuff in there.
Schmitt: Are you occupied with auditing the Federal Reserve as properly, which is clearly —
Musk: [laughs, shrugs] Yeah, certain.
Schmitt: — regulatory economic system. I think about you suppose the waste has bought to be all over the place.
Musk: Yeah, no, waste. Waste is just about all over the place. Folks ask, like, how are you going to discover waste? And, like, in DC, I’m like, look, it’s like being in a room, and this goal, the wall, the roofs and the ground are all targets. So it’s like, you’re gonna shut your eyes and go shoot in any course [laughs] you may’t miss, you understand. So it’s, it’s fairly wild, like, like, you simply push on issues a little bit bit, and also you save billions of {dollars}, like, just a bit bit, you understand, it’s wild.
Schmitt: Scary, isn’t it?
Musk: It’s why I say like, it truly is underrated, in the event you add caring and competence, how a lot issues enhance. Yeah, and, you understand, and we simply discover so many completely loopy issues, which, you understand, clearly we’re sharing with the general public. We put up every little thing we study, you understand, simply you understand, so you may see it, you understand.
Musk: It’s like, isn’t it? Like, it’s completely wild. Like, we did simply, we simply did, like, a verify on the database on Social Safety. Like, says, what number of, rather a lot People, alive People eligible for Social Safety, are there? And in line with the database, it’s over 400 million. And we’re like, wait a second, and what number of are you once more? Yeah. After which, like, we discovered, like, one individual in there may be, like, 306 years old. I’m like, [inaudible from crosstalk] I imply, yeah, you understand this, America doesn’t exist earlier than at the moment. Like, so, why? So, you understand, perhaps it’s simply me, however I feel it’s a purple flag. I don’t know.
Schmitt: However are there indications that there have been checks going to these folks, or any of these folks?
Musk opens his mouth and pauses.
Schmitt: I assume that’s the query.
Schmitt: I get the Social Safety Administration is dumb, however are they paying these folks? Are they that dumb? I don’t know.
Musk: A bunch of cash goes out from the Social Safety Administration, and, in truth, from all entitlement packages.
Schmitt: $72 billion in waste in like seven years. It’s $10 billion a 12 months.
Musk: Effectively, I feel the tough estimate from Normal — Authorities Accountability places of work, there’s over $500 billion in 40 years.
Schmitt: [leans in] Sorry, 5?
Musk: [enunciating] 5 hundred bill-i-on.
Musk: Per 12 months, per 12 months.
Schmitt: On Social Safety?
Musk: No, no, on all, on all —
Schmitt: On all authorities?
Musk: On all entitlements, all entitlements. Yeah, it type of truly is smart. Whenever you take a look at the factor from a prime stage and say, like, okay, there’s $7 trillion of spending by the federal government. What share do you suppose is fraudulent? Okay, precisely like a conservative estimate of the $7 trillion can be 10 %. Conservative.
Schmitt: In all probability larger than that, yeah, precisely like 1 / 4 each greenback, proper?
Musk: But when the fraud is barely 10 % of $7 trillion, you’ve bought $700 billion of fraud, and by the way in which, so it’s like, very easy to make the most of the federal authorities. Very straightforward.
The billionaire federal contractor nods knowingly.
Schmitt: Take a look at COVID! Take a look at all these scams! I imply, it’s unbelievable!
“Hear, if there’s going to be fraud, it ought to a minimum of be home”
Musk: It appears like, for, when it comes to covid funds, yeah, there was one thing like $200 billion of covid fee fraud taken by fraudsters in a foreign country. That’s like, I feel, hear, if there’s going to be fraud, it ought to a minimum of be home so, you understand. However they managed to get $200 billion in a foreign country. I’m like, what! Why didn’t we discover that?
Schmitt: Let me ask you, let’s do immigration right here for a second. You understand, there’s this transfer now that Trump’s newest factor is that he lower, he’s going to chop funding any form of cash that results in the palms of unlawful immigrants. So in the event you’re funding these sanctuary cities and states, that’s how they thrive, proper? They’re paying for these resorts. That’s all federal cash. For those who bought a lodge in your metropolis in New York, you bought all these resorts filled with migrants. That’s not state cash. That’s the feds are overlaying that, he’s going to chop all that. It’s actually arduous to deport 15 million folks. And it looks as if the transfer now could be, let’s make it in order that they depart on their very own. If there’s not a dole system for them, if they’ll’t get their palms on lodge rooms and cash, they’re going to return, particularly if there’s no work.
Musk: Effectively, I feel it’s actually necessary for folks to grasp that the Biden administration despatched any potential cash that they might, they might, if there was cash they might ship to facilitate and amplify unlawful immigration, they despatched it. Okay. They took cash from FEMA meant for serving to People in misery, and despatched that cash to luxurious resorts for unlawful immigrants in New York. That’s an outrage.
Musk: They really did that, and never solely that, even after the President signed an govt order saying it has to cease, the FEMA, the no matter deep state bureaucrats nonetheless pressed ship on $80 million final week to go to the Roosevelt Resort in New York and different locations final week. And now, and now, they’re mad that they’ve bought stopped, they usually’re like attempting to sue to have or not it’s restored. It’s like, the gumption.
Schmitt: You suppose they’re creating a brand new voter class? You suppose that was the purpose? Once they opened up the borders for 4 years, create a brand new voter class, get them citizenship, get them in.
Musk: Yeah, plenty of these items like, you don’t truly must assume some grand conspiracy. You simply want to have a look at primary incentives. So if the incentives, basically, if the chance that an unlawful goes to vote Democrat sooner or later, whether or not it’s dishonest, however ultimately they’ll turn into residents. But when chance is like 80, 90 % simply take a look at California, which is tremendous majority Dem. After which the motivation is to maximise the variety of illegals within the nation. That’s the reason the Biden administration was pushing to get as many illegals as potential and spend each greenback potential to get as many. As a result of each certainly one of them is a buyer. Everyone seems to be a voter. So the entire thing was a large voter importation rip-off.
Musk: Very apparent. After which, furthermore, then, they really created the CBP One border app factor the place they have been, which is, like, the place they might, they might actually fly folks in. It’s not like, like, on the level at which you understand, folks being flown in at your expense —
Schmitt: — sending planes —
Musk: Like constructing a wall up doesn’t work.
Schmitt: They’re actually flying them in. No different nation on the earth would do one thing like this. No person is that this silly.
Musk: Yeah. After which we discovered that there was, like $100 million contract given to some man in London, truly, whereas, you understand, yeah, properly, the CBP One app. So, so then, so that they’re flying illegals into the swing states. And in the event you’ve bought like, a margin of victory of perhaps 20,000 folks, and also you fly 200,000 illegals into that state, it’s not gonna be a swing state for lengthy.
Schmitt: Change the numbers. Possibly in 4, eight years.
Schmitt: It’s an extended recreation. It’s only a matter of time.
Musk: So it’d take, like, a 12 months for an asylum seeker to get on the inexperienced card and 5 years for the citizenship, it’s an funding that’s assured to repay. It’s only a query of when.
Schmitt: All of them bear in mind who introduced them in and who left them right here.
Musk: Precisely, precisely. I wish to return. I wish to discuss my large deal like, I feel lots of people like, don’t fairly recognize that this was an precise, actual rip-off at scale to tilt the scales of democracy in America.
Schmitt: Yet another Biden query. I bear in mind when, you understand, once they would do the electrical automotive stuff, they might at all times attempt to field you out, despite the fact that you will have the one electrical automotive anyone needs.
Schmitt: You stated, I feel this week that you simply suppose that Biden left these astronauts up in house as a result of he didn’t wish to give you a chance to save lots of them. Make NASA look dangerous, make the non-public sector look higher, make you look good. You imagine that?
Musk: Yeah, no, completely. So, after all.
Schmitt: I form of agree. Why would he wish to allow you to assist them come down once you’re supporting the president?
Musk: The Biden administration was, was attacking me subsequent stage. I imply, the Division of Justice — or Injustice, below the Biden administration — was, I imply, they have been suing SpaceX. They’re suing SpaceX for not hiring asylum seekers. And we’re like, however it’s truly unlawful for us to rent asylum seekers as a result of we’re… rocket know-how is roofed below ITAR guidelines, which which means it’s a complicated weapons know-how, yeah. And so we will solely rent everlasting residents or inexperienced card or residents, proper? Like, so we’re damned if we do, damned if we don’t. We stated like, so how can they sue us for not hiring asylum seekers when it’s truly unlawful for us to take action. However nonetheless, there was an enormous Division of Justice or Injustice case about this towards SpaceX, so clearly it was an antagonistic scenario, and people astronauts have been alleged to be up there for eight days, and now they’re up for eight months. Does that make any sense? And we, we, we, clearly might have introduced them again sooner, however they didn’t need anybody who might help President Trump to look good. Principally.
Musk: That’s the, that’s the that’s the problem.
Schmitt: A variety of them are saying proper now that the explanation that you simply wish to get into Social Safety, that you simply wish to get into all of those totally different — into Treasury and issues like that, is that you simply’re on the lookout for private data and also you’re attempting to earn more money.
Schmitt: I’ve by no means met anyone as wealthy as you that cared much less about cash in my life. Each time I hear a narrative about you, you’re sleeping on a sofa of another man in a metropolis that you could possibly purchase the whole factor. I don’t suppose you care about cash, dude.
Musk: I imply, I, I, I. [laughs] Hear, like if I steal Social Safety, I can lastly purchase good issues. Yeah?
Schmitt: And on that very same query, they’re additionally speaking about, you guys are going to finish Social Safety, you’re going to finish Medicare, you’re going to finish these items. I don’t think about that dialog has been had with the President, and that’s that’s the plan.
Musk: No, in truth, the actions that we’re taking with the help of the President and the help of the businesses, is, what’s going to save Medicare? What’s going to save Social Safety?
Musk: And and, as a result of if the nation goes bancrupt, if all, if all the cash is simply spent on paying curiosity on debt, there’s no cash left for something. Yeah, in order that’s, that’s the explanation I’m doing this, is as a result of I seemed on the large image right here, and it’s like, man, our debt’s getting uncontrolled. The curiosity funds, curiosity on the nationwide debt now exceeds the whole protection division funds.
Schmitt: A trillion a 12 months. In curiosity, simply to hold the cash that we owe, is a trillion a 12 months.
“So like, I imply, a rustic’s no totally different from an individual. Nation overspends, nation goes bankrupt. Identical with, identical as an individual who overspends goes bankrupt.”
Musk: Rising quickly. So like, I imply, a rustic’s no totally different from an individual. Nation overspends, nation goes bankrupt. Identical with, identical as an individual who overspends goes bankrupt. So it’s not like non-obligatory to unravel these items. It’s important.
Schmitt: So we’re gonna go bankrupt.
Schmitt: Couple minutes left right here. Russia, there’s an enormous push —
Musk: Oh, yeah, yeah. Folks like, type of like, the tip, like, yeah, you understand, I’m a, I’m a purchased asset of Putin, yeah, I’m like, he can’t afford me.
Schmitt: Yeah, I feel, I feel you’re price greater than Russia.
Musk: [mugging at crowd] Give it some thought! [giggles]
Schmitt: So that you’re attempting to finish, you’re attempting to finish a warfare. Ending a warfare at all times means it’s a must to compromise. It’s a must to negotiate with an enemy or an adversary. That’s simply what it’s. And proper now, they’re lambasting the president for attempting a special technique to warfare that they haven’t been capable of finish for 3 and a half years. Three years. Yeah, they, you understand, they’re saying Trump’s blaming Zelensky for the invasion. How do you, how do you course of the entire negativity towards him for attempting to finish this warfare?
Musk: Effectively, to begin with, I feel we must always have empathy for the folks dying on the entrance strains. That’s crucial factor. If folks have been dying, you understand, like, what number of extra years is that this alleged to go on? And picture if that was your son, your father, you understand, what are they dying for? What precisely are they dying for? That line has, the road of engagement has barely moved for 2 years. There’s an entire bunch of individuals lifeless in trenches for what. And I’ll inform you what for, what it’s like for the most important graft machine that I’ve ever seen in my life, that’s for what. It’s unreal, just like the amount of cash that’s being taken in graft and bribery is disgusting. And so what’s truly occurring is that these, these you understand, folks, these poor guys, are getting despatched right into a meat grinder for cash. That’s what’s truly happening. And must cease.
Schmitt: Trump is so pragmatic on this. He simply, he’s simply taking a look at it, and he’s saying it’s Ukraine, it’s not our nation, it’s not a NATO ally. I simply wish to see folks not dying. I wish to see, on either side, I imply, take into consideration what number of younger — so many younger males have died in Ukraine that the military is beginning to age out. The army is ageing out. You get 40 and 50 12 months outdated guys combating in a warfare as a result of there’s no one left that’s not killed or maimed of their 20s. That’s the fact. Take into consideration how many individuals that’s, in the event you’re a humanitarian in any respect, you simply bought to finish the warfare, like, it doesn’t matter what, simply get it over with.
“The president has plenty of empathy. He actually cares. You understand, he’s good, he’s man.”
Musk: Sure, folks, they should cease dying and the graft machines bought to cease, you understand, so, and I feel folks that don’t, lots of people on the market don’t notice, like, the president has plenty of empathy. He actually cares. You understand, he’s good, he’s man.
Schmitt: I bought yet one more for you. I’ve been fascinated by you for a really very long time.
Schmitt: I’ve simply, I simply, I’ve by no means seen anyone that may, you understand, accomplish that many issues on the identical time. I imply, you’ve bought the rockets, you bought the automobiles. I’ve at all times wished to ask you, what’s it like inside your thoughts, like, this, is it simply 1,000 miles an hour? I imply, are you —
Schmitt: Is it simply not? I imply, simply, does it ever cease? Do you sleep? How a lot do you sleep? Paint us an image of inside the thoughts of a genius? Like, how do you… are you able to reply that query? It’s not a straightforward query.
He pauses. He’s nonetheless carrying the sun shades, having by no means taken them off this whole time.
Musk: My thoughts is a storm. So. It’s a storm.
Musk: However, however, I imply, let me perhaps inform you one thing like, you didn’t ask the query, however, however I feel it’s price nonetheless, perhaps simply elaborating on one thing, which is, you understand, I grew up in South Africa and… however my morality was knowledgeable by America. I learn comedian books, you understand, performed Dungeons & Dragons.
Very small part of crowd cheers.
Musk: And I watched American TV reveals and, like, it appeared like America cared about being the great guys, you understand, about doing the correct factor and, and that’s truly fairly uncommon, by the way in which. [laughs]
Schmitt: On this planet, it’s very uncommon. Yeah, it’s not like, truly, nations don’t do this.
Musk: No, they don’t, no. And so I used to be like, Yeah, you understand, you wish to be this good. You wish to be on the aspect of excellent. You wish to care about what’s proper. And, and uh, yeah. In order that’s, that’s, yeah, what I imagine in.
Viewers member screams that they love him.
Schmitt: I gave you, I gave you a troublesome one on the finish.
Schmitt: So yeah, that’s nice. That’s nice. [to crowd] Elon Musk.
Crowd goes wild. The digital camera zooms out, exhibiting a standing ovation.
Schmitt: Thanks. Thanks a lot. Admire you.
Elon Musk recommences wandering forwards and backwards throughout the stage, waving the chainsaw. He pauses; an odd rectangular form is bobbing by means of the group. It floats up in the direction of Musk, he grabs it. It seems to be a really massive fan artwork portray of Musk himself. He grabs the portray with one hand and the chainsaw with the opposite.